MacVoices #24090: MVL – Would You Rent A Printer That HP Monitors?

Our privacy theme continues as the MacVoices Live! panel looks at HP’s new option to rent a printer. Is that a good idea given the seemingly onerous contract terms, let alone the possible privacy concerns over an always-connected-to-the-Internet printer? Chuck JoinerBrian Flanigan-ArthursEric BoldenMarty JenciusJim ReaJeff Gamet, and David Ginsburg look at everything from cancellation requirements to minimum page requirements to where the printer companies are making their money…at your expense.

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Show Notes:


0:00 Introduction to HP Printer Rental Debate
0:55 Concerns about HP Printer Monitoring and Privacy
2:20 Puzzling Reactions to HP’s Printer Rental Offer
3:24 Stricter Conditions for HP Printer Connectivity
4:27 Licensing and Usage Terms for Software
4:52 Managing Software Licensing and Usage
5:56 Flexible Licensing Models for Software Use
8:33 Implementing Customer-Centric Software Licensing
9:33 Speculation on HP Printer Data Collection
10:18 Privacy Concerns in Modern Technology
10:56 Financial Analysis of HP Printer Rental Plan
11:47 Financial Breakdown of HP Printer Subscription
13:12 Evolution of Printer Business Models
13:51 HP’s Transition to Information-Driven Revenue
14:15 Nostalgia for Old Printer Durability
14:38 Disappointment with HP’s New Business Model
15:05 Speculation on HP’s Motivations for New Model
15:39 HP’s Transparent Approach to Data Monetization
16:18 HP’s Openness about Data Monetization
17:46 Subscription Model Suitability for Consumers
18:34 Experience with Subscription Models in Printing
19:48 Consumer Reactions to HP’s Business Model
20:19 Public Response to HP’s Printer Subscription
20:49 Evolution of Printer Leasing and Service Contracts
21:34 Concerns over Terms and Penalties in HP Printer Subscription
22:24 Uncertainty about Data Sold by HP
23:33 Public Perception and Consumer Behavior
24:13 Concerns over Continuous Internet Connection Requirement
25:08 Usage Patterns and Monitoring in Business Printing
26:38 Insights on Data Collection from Printer Usage
28:00 Public Reactions and Community Discussions
30:28 Business vs. Consumer Considerations in Printer Subscriptions
31:59 Speculation on HP’s Business Strategy
33:06 Enterprise Experience with Printer Management
34:54 Evolution of Printing Trends in Business


HP wants you to pay up to $36/month to rent a printer that it monitors


Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitterby email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], and on his blog, Trending At Work.

Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @[email protected].

Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer’s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn., @[email protected] on Mastodon, and on his YouTube Channel at

David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @[email protected]

Dr. Marty Jencius has been an Associate Professor of Counseling at Kent State University since 2000. He has over 120 publications in books, chapters, journal articles, and others, along with 200 podcasts related to counseling, counselor education, and faculty life. His technology interest led him to develop the counseling profession ‘firsts,’ including listservs, a web-based peer-reviewed journal, The Journal of Technology in Counseling, teaching and conferencing in virtual worlds as the founder of Counselor Education in Second Life, and podcast founder/producer of and Currently, he produces a podcast about counseling and life questions, the Circular Firing Squad, and digital video interviews with legacies capturing the history of the counseling field. Generally, Marty is chasing the newest tech trends, which explains his interest in A.I. for teaching, research, and productivity. Marty is an active presenter and past president of the NorthEast Ohio Apple Corp (NEOAC).

Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE’s ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He’s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at and via @[email protected] on Mastodon.


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