MacVoices #24009: MVL – Understanding The On-Again, Off-Again Apple Watch Ban

 The MacVoices Live! panel of Chuck JoinerDavid Ginsburg, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Jim ReaEric BoldenJeff GametMark Fuccio Web Bixby and special switcher guest James Baraniak have some doubts about one of Masimo’s latest claims in the Apple Watch dispute. A discussion about alternatives and pricing to Apple Watch-based pulse oximeters, patent disputes, and patent realities ensues.


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Show Notes:


0:02:20 Apple’s Legal Battle and the Merits of the Case
0:06:52 Apple’s Controversial $100 Million Decision
0:09:17 Discrepancy in determining Apple’s infringement without court decision
0:13:11 Similarities between Engineering and Science Patents
0:15:32 Curiosity about Apple’s Claims and Patent Strategy
0:17:07 The Watches Removed from Sale without Trial
0:20:12 The Impact of ITC Ruling on Apple and Masimo
0:28:07 The Evolution of the Apple Watch band controversy


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Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.

James Baraniak is a biochemist with a passion for bridging science with law. He is majorly invested in all sorts of tech, particularly fond of video games, and have work previously in advising others in terms of electronics. You may reach him on X (formerly Twitter) @JustSimplyJames and watch him on RedButtonJamfest on Twitch.

Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitterby email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], and on his blog, Trending At Work.

Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @[email protected].

Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990’s selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter, LinkedIn, or on Mastodon.

Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer’s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn., @[email protected] on Mastodon, and on his YouTube Channel at

David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @[email protected]

Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE’s ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He’s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at and via @[email protected] on Mastodon.


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