MacVoices #23283: MacVoices Live! – Goldman Sachs & The Apple Card; A High Priced Tinder Tier (3)

Our conversation about the challenges Goldman Sachs faces in their partnership with Apple for the Apple Card continues as David GinsburgJeff GametBrian Flanigan-ArthursJim ReaBen RoethigEric BoldenMark FuccioKelly Guimont, and Brittany Smith question their ability to capitalize on the relationship and debate whether they are losing money or using Apple as a scapegoat. We wrap with a discussion of a high-priced Tinder tier and whether it might actually be worth it. (Part 3) 

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Show Notes:


0:03:13 Speculation on the reasons behind Goldman’s difficulties with Apple
0:07:42 Apple Card’s Cashback Rewards
0:09:10 Consumer Credit Troubles for Goldman and Apple
0:10:40 The $500 a Month Tinder Tier
0:12:15 The Dating Pool for Wealthy Individuals
0:13:14 A Happy Ending and Satisfied Customers
0:14:29 Eric’s Facepalm Streak Continues
0:14:58 Exploring the Pros and Cons of the Dating Game
0:16:52 Challenges of Modern Dating and the Appeal of Paid Services
0:17:20 The Evolution of Online Communication: From IRC to AOL
0:19:28 Chat Room Comments and the Importance of Online Communities
0:21:16 The Love Story: Paid Dating Service for Two Years


Goldman Sachs regrets Apple Card, and is trying to escape the deal

How the Apple-Goldman Sachs relationship became an unhappy marriage

How the Partnership Between Apple and Goldman Sachs Soured

The Morning After: Tinder’s $500 a month tier is here


Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitterby email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], and on his blog, Trending At Work.

Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @[email protected].

Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990’s selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter, LinkedIn, or on Mastodon.

Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer’s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn., @[email protected] on Mastodon, and on his YouTube Channel at

David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @[email protected]

Kelly Guimont is a podcaster and friend of the Rebel Alliance. You can also hear her on The Aftershow with Mike Rose, and she still has more to say which she saves for Twitter and Mastodon

Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE’s ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He’s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at and via @[email protected] on Mastodon.

Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He is the a former Associate Editor with Geek Beat, Co-Founder of The Tech Hangout and Deconstruct and currently shares his thoughts on RoethigTech. Contact him on  Twitter and Mastodon

Brittany Smith is a trained cognitive neuroscientist who provides ADD/ADHD, technology, and productivity coaching through her business, Devise and Conquer, along with companion video courses for folks with ADHD. She’s also the cofounder of The ADHD Guild, a community for nerdy folks with ADHD. She, herself, is a self-designated “well-rounded geek”. She can be found on Twitter as @addliberator, on Mastodon as @[email protected], and on YouTube with tech tips.


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