MacVoices #23282: MacVoices Live! – The Apple Pencil Product Line; Goldman Sachs Isn’t Happy (2)

Our discussion of the new Apple USB-C Pencil continues with David GinsburgJeff GametBrian Flanigan-ArthursJim ReaBen RoethigEric BoldenMark FuccioKelly Guimont, and Brittany Smith The panel delves into the decision to sacrifice inductive charging for a lower price on the latest model and advise on which version to purchase based on individual needs. The panel also touches on confusion surrounding the naming of different Apple Pencil versions before starting to explore Goldman Sachs’ reported dissatisfaction with the Apple Card deal and speculate on their decision-making. (Part 2)

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Show Notes:


0:00:23 Selecting the Right Apple Pencil Model
0:04:11 Exploring the benefits of the Apple Pencil
0:08:50 Considerations when deciding between Apple Pencil models
0:13:32 Apple Pencil: A Misunderstood Product
0:15:11 The affordable iPad: A great option for basic needs
0:16:02 Apple’s decision to release new product with unique feature set
0:17:40 Delayed release of new iPads due to logistical challenges
0:19:26 Jim’s New Era of Using the Apple Pencil
0:19:54 Goldman Sachs wants out of the Apple card deal
0:22:29 Goldman Sachs spending $350 per card for customer acquisition
0:28:28 Responsible Credit Card Usage with Apple Card
0:30:33 Limited Profitability for Goldman Sachs with Apple Card
0:31:40 Apple’s Motive for Playing Devil’s Advocate
0:31:46 Apple’s Data Collection for Intelligence


Apple Pencil (USB-C) ??????

Apple Pencil (2nd Generation)

Apple Pencil (1st Generation)

Stylus Pen for iPad 9th&10th Generation-2X Fast Charge Active Pencil Compatible

Stylus Pen for iPad(2022-2018) with Palm Rejection, FOJOJO Active Pencil Compatible

Charging Case Compatible with Apple Pencil 2nd Generation Only, Magnetic Charging Stand for Ipad Pen 2nd Gen v

Goldman Sachs regrets Apple Card, and is trying to escape the deal

How the Apple-Goldman Sachs relationship became an unhappy marriage

How the Partnership Between Apple and Goldman Sachs Soured


Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitterby email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], and on his blog, Trending At Work.

Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @[email protected].

Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990’s selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter, LinkedIn, or on Mastodon.

Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer’s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn., @[email protected] on Mastodon, and on his YouTube Channel at

David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @[email protected]

Kelly Guimont is a podcaster and friend of the Rebel Alliance. You can also hear her on The Aftershow with Mike Rose, and she still has more to say which she saves for Twitter and Mastodon.

Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE’s ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He’s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at and via @[email protected] on Mastodon.

Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He is the a former Associate Editor with Geek Beat, Co-Founder of The Tech Hangout and Deconstruct and currently shares his thoughts on RoethigTech. Contact him on  Twitter and Mastodon

Brittany Smith is a trained cognitive neuroscientist who provides ADD/ADHD, technology, and productivity coaching through her business, Devise and Conquer, along with companion video courses for folks with ADHD. She’s also the cofounder of The ADHD Guild, a community for nerdy folks with ADHD. She, herself, is a self-designated “well-rounded geek”. She can be found on Twitter as @addliberator, on Mastodon as @[email protected], and on YouTube with tech tips.


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