MacVoices #23218: MacVoices Live! – More AI Graphics Discussion and Zoom’s Changing LLM Policy (2)

Chuck JoinerGuy SerleDavid GinsburgBen RoethigEric BoldenKelly GuimontWeb Bixby, and Mark Fuccio finish off a conversation about computer generated images and graphics in this MacVoices Live! session. Concerns about the quality and repetitiveness of generated content are raised, as well as the importance of unique perspectives and ideas. The role of historians, librarians, and copyright issues in preserving accurate data is explored. The panel then delves into the recent changes to Zoom’s terms of service and their intentions to use conversations for AI training. Confusion and concern surround the changing policy statements and the need for clearer explanations from Zoom is demanded. The episode concludes with a mention of location tracking as another example of the importance of transparency and communication in evolving technologies. (Part 2) 

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Show Notes:


0:01:52 Unique ideas and the importance of human creativity in art
0:04:12 Zoom’s Controversial Terms of Service Change
0:06:12 Balancing Privacy and Personalized Services
0:07:14 Suspicion of Profit Motive in Data Training Process
0:07:58 Communications Nightmare Unveiled
0:08:12 Zoom’s lack of communication skill and contradictory statements
0:10:56 Opt-out feature and lack of prompt for data sharing
0:14:10 Concerns about Terms of Service and AI Models
0:15:44 The Overreaching License in Perpetuity
0:18:01 The Loophole of Service-Generated Data
0:21:32 Privacy Concerns and Re-evaluating Usage of Zoom
0:24:18 Implications of Data Usage in Different Industries
0:27:50 Technology’s Impact on Information Exchange and Privacy Concerns
0:29:32 The Rise of GPUs and the Potential of Matrix Algebra in Technology
0:30:28 Unforeseen Consequences of DNA Testing and Forensic DNA Chain


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Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.

Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitterby email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], and on his blog, Trending At Work.

Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990’s selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter, LinkedIn, or on Mastodon.

David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @[email protected]

Kelly Guimont is a podcaster and friend of the Rebel Alliance. You can also hear her on The Aftershow with Mike Rose, and she still has more to say which she saves for Twitter and Mastodon

Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He is the a former Associate Editor with Geek Beat, Co-Founder of The Tech Hangout and Deconstruct and currently shares his thoughts on RoethigTech. Contact him on  Twitter and Mastodon.

Guy Serle, best known for being one of the co-hosts of the MyMac Podcast, sincerely apologizes for anything he has done or caused to have happened while in possession of dangerous podcasting equipment. He should know better but being a blonde from Florida means he’s probably incapable of understanding the damage he has wrought. Guy is also the author of the novel, The Maltese Cube. You can follow his exploits on Twitter, catch him on Mac to the Future on Facebook, at @[email protected], and find everything at



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