MacVoices #23209: MacVoices Live! – macOS & iOS Confusion, Apple TV+ & Apple Music Demographics (2)

In this MacVocies Live! session, Chuck Joiner, Brian Flanigan-ArthursJim ReaBen RoethigJeff GametWeb Bixby, and Mark Fuccio discuss the convergence of iOS and Mac OS, exploring the challenges and benefits. We also touch on recent UI changes, concerns about compromising the Mac user experience, and the balance between security and usability. We also question the credibility of reported Apple Music and Apple TV+ user demographics. (Part 2) 

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Show Notes:


0:00:36 Convergence of iOS and Mac OS causing confusion?
0:02:01 Critique on Author’s Lack of Intellectual Curiosity
0:04:26 Apple’s Unified Code Base: Benefits and Consistency
0:05:06 Unifying platforms and running iOS code on Mac
0:07:26 Concerns about changes in the settings app and touch interface
0:08:38 Apple’s approach to maintaining Mac capabilities
0:09:37 Setting up and configuring on your own Mac
0:11:54 Apple’s attempt to protect users from potential harm
0:14:08 Complications with outdated versions and lack of developer signatures
0:16:01 The convenience of using Homebrew for command line tasks
0:19:08 Inconvenience of security settings and the need for better explanations
0:22:11 Question about subscription management experience on Mac devices
0:27:49 Apple’s Alert for Non-HTTP Links
0:31:44 Apple’s system protection and user experience discussed
0:35:38 Assumption vs Evidence: The Importance of Facts
0:35:52 Evernote’s Reported Death and Decline in Threads Usage


Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.

Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @[email protected].

Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990’s selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter, LinkedIn, or on Mastodon.

Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer’s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn., @[email protected] on Mastodon, and on his YouTube Channel at

Jim Rea has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE’s ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. Follow Jim at and via @provuejim on Twitter.

Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He is the a former Associate Editor with Geek Beat, Co-Founder of The Tech Hangout and Deconstruct and currently shares his thoughts on RoethigTech. Contact him on  Twitter and Mastodon.


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